I am sure the grumpy professor already know the answer. Ha!
It started back when the constitution was just kickin' in. 1780's. It was taught by my 7th grade teacher that it was enacted because the voters were dumb and the congress knew everything. Thank goodness, as far as I can remember, no president has been elected by an electoral college that lost the popular vote.
I thought teach said all three branches began at the same time but went and did a little researching. All three branches of government began at the same time.
The American Flag waves in my yard every day when the weather permits. I find it hard to believe how well our constitution holds up. It was designed by geniuses. The checks and balances that our government provides allow everyone to have a voice, but still keep a lot of us just a little tee'd off!
Post by midmotrapper on Jul 14, 2009 18:21:32 GMT -5
The original idea was created at the Constitutional Convention, in 1787, and is embodied in Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution. However, the Electoral College was not written into law by name until 1854. Title 3 U.S. Code Subsect. 4.
The supreme court technically began in 1790 but did not move to Washington DC until 1800
You rock, Midmo. Now I can act like an expert at the supper table tonite! My 12 year old will think I am a historian! Ha! Our three branch government has been here for a long time and isn't going anywhere for quite a while.
I think Professor Grump is trying to educate us a little!
Post by Willie Mallard on Jul 14, 2009 19:12:18 GMT -5
We really saw how the electoral vote worked when Gore and Bush ran against each other. Midmo is the man when it comes to them rights always been impressed with the fact that he actually understands what he reads! He'll give it to you straight! Another person that knows laws well is Evertrap.
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Lack of communication and difficulty of travel is why the electoral College was formed. Each County would send delegates to the state convention which would send delegates to the national convention. They were supposed to vote the way the electoral bodies that sent them voted.
The whole process is antiquated and should be eliminated and go with the popular vote.
You good, Midmo, not bad. I learned from your post and my 12 year old almost dropped his roastin ear on the floor when I told him the real scoop. The electoral college is controversial but really does not make a lot of difference these days. It gives tiny states a little more power, but not much more. I think we are ready to begin popular vote, but we have bigger fish to fry before we start skinnin' and cookin' the minnows. I salute every person who has dedicated their lives to upholding the constiution in the political arena. I couldn't do it. I taught for three decades and put up with a lot of challenges but would not have the patience to deal with the Washington crowd.
I agree with evertrap. The electoral college is a good thing. If it was left to just the popular vote, the politicians would camp out in the large population areas buying votes... and we all know how the people in large population areas vote???? California and New York would pick the president in every election.
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Say for instance, the first time I visited Grumpy's, I can tell you almost everything we talked about, which streets we turned on to go eat, what we had, what the bill was, what the tip was, etc.. There was snow on the ground if that gives any idea of how long ago it was.
bob: do you remember that "homely" waitress we had??
The only thing keeping the EC around is the "Good Ol'e Boy" network of free trips to the conventions and free booze/hotel rooms/hookers etc. They can tabulate the winners afew hours BEFORE the polls close now. One vote over 50% and the the whole state goes one way eliminating the wishes of the other 1/2.
I think I recall there were some EC votes cast in the past that were not for the person they were sent to vote for. Someone jumped a fence somewhere.. I just can't remember who.... . EDIT: Faithless Electors www.fairvote.org/e_college/faithless.htm
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