Ok so I tried making some and I'm not sure whats going on. I chopped up some tails in small chunks, enough to fill a gallon jar loosely. I drilled a hole in the lid and soldered a copper tube through the hole to act as a vent. I screwed the lid on and bent the tube over into a small bucket of water, so gas could escape and fly's couldn't lay eggs. The first couple days everything seemed ok but the vacuum created by the heating and cooling of the jar pulled most of the water from the bucket filling the jar with water. This has been going on now since early spring. The jar has some rotted chunks of tail and clear liquid, I assume is water, and the bucket is now overflowing with a reddish brown semi-thick sludge. My thought was that the oil formed inside the jar but I'm thinking now something went wrong. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated as this is my first attempt at making any type of lure. If this works I have some dried castors and oil sacks I'd like to do something with.
Two things come to mind. First you only fill the jar 2/3s full of cut up tails. Second, you only want enough water in the bucket to keep the pipe submerged. Not enough to completely fill the pipe so it can continue to filling the jar.
I fill my jar 2/3 full and put lid on loosely. Next I put the jar in a 5 gal plastic bucket with a tight fitting lid. If you paint the bucket black,it'll absorb more heat. Every couple of weeks you might check the jar lid to insure it didn't seal ,causing pressure to build. Pretty simple really.
Soak the castor in enough vodka to cover so it rehydrates and grind. Mix ground castor with glycerine and use.
Thanks Big John, I figured I messed up somewhere but at least I don't have an exploded glass jar full of goo in my yard I guess. I'll have to try again I think I still have a tail or two that can go in the jar for a second round. I'll try the castor mix you talk of as well. Thanks again.
I think the copper tube became a siphon. Step one....load the jar Step two.......zing a screw in the lid step three.....set in sunlight for a long time
After all this screwing around with hoses and screens, I found the drywall screw lets pressure out and leaves no room for a fly to blow eggs from it abdomen into the mix. If in doubt then put the jar inside a gallon jar with the lid half screwed on. Flys blow eggs.....
That is dark oil! Mine was the color of honey.......That black will settle out if you don't shake it..You can also tie that tube in a knot and fill the knot with water. Works just like a P-trap on a drain under your sink. Another way to go is to get a fermentation lock at a winemaking store.(they cost like two bucks and fit a gallon jug) Whatever you do, you can tell if it works by looking for maggots. If your batch has maggots in it then the little devils out foxed you.
The black oil is what you want. Carefully suck it off with a turkey baster and don't get the lighter stuff under it. I usually extract the black oil leaving about a 1/4 inch of it still on top,to avoid getting the brown/grey stuff.
If you started a batch today, it might be ready for season. I don't think beaver tail oil is a lure by itself. It is just a base. Homemade Fish oil (with the sludge) is practically a complete lure.. You go over to the bait and lure maker website and they wont tell you any thing. Them old timers were stingy with their secrets. We are not that way on this site. I think Willy Mallard posted this years ago and Cletis resurrected it a couple years ago but here we go again.
1 Pint Coyote Urine 1 oz. Civet Musk 1 oz. Beaver Castor 1/8 oz. Asafoetida 1/8 oz. XYOL(also known as White Musk) 1/8 oz. Zinc of Valerate 20 Drops Rhodium Oil 20 Drops Cummin Oil 10 Drops Anise Oil 10 Drops Lovage Oil
Bobcat Formula # 1
4 oz. Trout Oil 1/2 Beaver Castor 1/4 oz. Beaver Oil 1/4 oz. Catnip Oil
Mix well and let age 6 weeks.
Bobcat Formula # 2
2 oz. Bobcat Urine 1 oz. Parafine Oil 1 0z. Trout Oil 1/2 oz. Muskrat Musk 1/2 oz. Beaver Castor
Mr. Roberts * (Bobcats - Foxes - Coyotes - Raccoons)
1 pint Bobcat Glands 4 oz. Bobcat Urine & Bladder 1/4 oz. Beaver Castor 1 capful Ambrette Musk 4 capful Musk Canton 1 capful Catnip Oil 1 quart Fish Oil 1/4 oz Skunk Musk
* Makes approximately 1/2 gallon of lure
Song Dog Special (Coyotes - Foxes - Raccoons - Oppossums - Skunks)
3 lbs Beef Kidney Mix (let age with ingredients until liquified - grind and blend well) 1 pint Coyote Glands 1 pint Coyote Urine 1 capful Cummings Oil 1 capful Skunk Musk 1 capful Blue Cheese Essence 1/4 capful Tonquin Musk 4 oz. Propylene Glycol
Cat House (Bobcats - Foxes - Coyotes)
4 capful Tonquin Musk 2 capful Canton Musk 1 capful Oil of Fennel 2 capful Catnip 1 capful Ambrette Musk Crystals 4 oz. Fish Oil (mix in the above state portions for larger quantities)
Leave it to Beaver (Beaver - Muskrat - Mink - Otter - Marten - Fisher - Fox)
4 oz. Beaver Castor 4 oz. Beaver Oil Sacs 1 capful Tonquin Musk 1/2 oz. Ambrette Musk Crystals 1capful Canton Musk 5 drops Lavender Oil 4 drops Oil of Fennel 1 capful Bergamot Oil 6 drops of Sweet Flag Oil 4 oz. Propylene Glycol
4 oz. Grape Essence Oil 1 oz. Perssimon Oil 1/2 oz. Loganberry Oil 1/2 oz. Tonquin Musk Oil 1 capful Canton Musk Oil 4 drops of Lavender Oil 2 drops Oil of Fennel 4 drops Catnip Oil 2 drops Oil of Lovage 1/2 oz Ambrette Musk Crystals 4 oz. Propylene Glycol 4 oz. Lanolin
Bait Formula (Good for all Predators - Age until Liquified)
1 pint Glycerine OIl 1 pint Fox Glands 1 pint Fish Oil 1 oz Grape Essence Oil 1/2 oz Persimmon Oil 1/2 oz. Loganberry Oil 1/8 oz. Valerian Root Oil 1 capful Bergamot Oil 1/2 oz Muscaro Musk 1/2 oz Ambrette Musk 1 capful Amber Oil 1/2 capful Sweetflag Oil 1 capful Rue Oil 1 capful Orris Root Oil 1 capful Cummings Oil 1/2 capful Citron Oil 1 teaspoon Angelica Root Powder 5 drops Oil of Lovage 1 oz. Beaver Castor 6 drops Tonquin Musk
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Coyote scent: 3 oz. Lanolin 3 oz. seal oil(substitute with trout oil) 1/2 mink musk 1/2 powdered beaver castor 3 grains civit mix the lanolin and seal oil. add the musk and mix thoroughly. add the civit mix well. Then add castor.
2 oz. Fish Oil 1 oz. Tonquin 1 oz. Fox Urine
In a Clean Quart Jar add:
Pint finely ground Mice 1 1/2 Cups Rain Water 4 oz. Ground Muskrat Musk 2 oz. Ground Beaver Castor 1/2 oz. Valerian Tincture 1/2 oz. Asafortida Tincture Almost fill the jar with Fish Oil and 10 to 12 Drops of Skunk Essence.
Post by Flying Trapper on Aug 21, 2016 17:41:08 GMT -6
Holy crap, now that's a reply!!! Thanks for going above and beyond on that one! This site has been helpful to me and I greatly appreciate it! Do you guys make all your own lures or just a few? Is it cheaper or equal out in the end? Thinking I may try this next year. Of all the ones you named, which one works the best for you?
bverboy: yup.. joe told me so
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raymond: I heard Joe was bringing an sr22 for everybody at his table . Thanks Joe .
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Walleye Joe: You need your hearing checked Ray!
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krank: He said "Lesser fun for you" not "SR22".....
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farmnhunter: If you want to avoid feline, you can't use any meat or fish item or scent. Try a piece of black licorish covered by dairy feed, or lucky charms or corn/koolaid (mix 1 qt whole corn with a package of grape koolaid)
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